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donderdag 9 september 2010 22:23
ING gesloten in USA op 7,65 euro
donderdag 9 september 2010 22:34
zie toch echt 7,54 staan helaas ......, zal morgen weer lekker schommelen worden vrees ik of doe er je voordeel mee natuurlijk
donderdag 9 september 2010 22:42
Kijk op http://www.wallstreetweb.nl, en daar zie je €7.62.
Ook Spijkertje oftewel droadnagel op DFT heeft het op zijn website staan, FD staat inderdaad €7,54,maar dat is niet goed!
donderdag 9 september 2010 22:47
Alex geeft ook 7.54.
donderdag 9 september 2010 22:49
Croissant schreef:

Kijk op http://www.wallstreetweb.nl, en daar zie je €7.62.
Ook Spijkertje oftewel droadnagel op DFT heeft het op zijn website staan, FD staat inderdaad €7,54,maar dat is niet goed!


Er is weer lekker mee gespeeld in de laatste transactie om 22:05 uur. Zie hier:

http://droadneggel.webs.com/ingws09092010.jpg

$ 9.68 = € 7,62

(en $ 9.60 = € 7,56)
donderdag 9 september 2010 22:50
Croissant schreef:

Kijk op http://www.wallstreetweb.nl, en daar zie je €7.62.
Ook Spijkertje oftewel droadnagel op DFT heeft het op zijn website staan, FD staat inderdaad €7,54,maar dat is niet goed!

http://www.wallstreetweb.nl/beursnieuws/33303731373136.shtml
dus 7.54
donderdag 9 september 2010 22:53
voda schreef:

Alex geeft ook 7.54.

Binck idem, maar die hebben natuurlijk een gemeenschappelijke "achterkant".
ING eindigde overigens in de VS op 9,68 dollar en omgerekend naar actuele valutakoers is dat nu 7,62 euro.
donderdag 9 september 2010 22:58
Frunk schreef:


Alex geeft ook 7.54.

Binck idem, maar die hebben natuurlijk een gemeenschappelijke "achterkant".
ING eindigde overigens in de VS op 9,68 dollar en omgerekend naar actuele valutakoers is dat nu 7,62 euro.


Hier ken je zien dat er in de laatste 10 min.
flink gestuurd is

http://droadneggel.webs.com/gespeeld.jpg

bron: http://alturl.com/pheyz
donderdag 9 september 2010 23:03
Waar gaat het allemaal over....(!) € 7,54 of € 7,62
Naar de volgende kwartaalcijfers staat ING ruim boven de € 8,25.....(!)
donderdag 9 september 2010 23:10
lijkt me geschikte afsluiter ....trusten
donderdag 9 september 2010 23:19
Zie After Hours: 9.71 N/A (N/A) 9:29AM EDT
Omgerekend 1,27 is dat 7,65
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ing

gr
vrijdag 10 september 2010 03:04
10:00 Plaatselijke tijd Tokyo:
Nikkei 225: 9,276.31 +177.92 ( +1.96%)

http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/marketlive.aspx

Friday, September 10, 2010
1st Use Of Deposit Protection Cap To Be Invoked As Incubator Bank Fails

TOKYO (Nikkei)--Incubator Bank of Japan will tell the Financial Services Agency on Friday that its earnings report for the half year through September will likely show a negative net worth of 150 billion yen, a revelation that is expected to prompt the FSA to declare the institution bankrupt, The Nikkei learned Thursday.

As a result, bank depositors are expected to be refunded only up to 10 million yen in principal plus earned interest, marking the first time that a cap on deposit insurance will be used in Japan.

The FSA will likely decide not to rescue the bank and only refund depositors up to the cap on grounds that the impact on both individuals and the overall financial system will be limited.

Incubator Bank was established in 2004 as a specialist in small business loans. It has been struggling to turn things around, especially after Chairman Takeshi Kimura, President Tatsuya Nishino and other executives were arrested in June on a suspicion of obstructing an FSA audit. The bank has since appointed a new management team and been working toward rehabilitation.

According to sources close to the matter, Incubator Bank had been seeking investors to bolster its capital. But it recently discovered a hole in its loan-loss reserves through a detailed self-audit, triggered by the FSA's complaint that the bank's assessment of its bad-debt burden was too lenient. Because rectifying the reserve shortfall would push up the bank's liabilities far in excess of its assets, it has given up on negotiations to bolster its capital.

The FSA is now expected to issue an administrative order for a business suspension and name the Deposit Insurance Corp. of Japan as the state-appointed administrator. At the same time, Incubator Bank is to file with the Tokyo District Court for bankruptcy protection from creditors under the Civil Rehabilitation Law.

A cap on deposit insurance payoffs was included when Japan established the deposit insurance system in 1971, but it was suspended during the 1990s banking crisis and depositors were insured for their entire amounts. The cap was reimposed on time deposits in 2002, but when Ashikaga Bank went under in 2003, it was nationalized and depositors were protected in full due to concerns about the financial system.

Of Incubator Bank's 110,000 depositors, around 4,000 have deposits in excess of 10 million yen. Incubator Bank has 600 billion yen in deposits, some 10 billion yen of which could be lost.

Under Deposit Insurance Corp.'s supervision, Incubator Bank is expected to continue offering minimal services, such as fielding withdrawals and executing loans that were already approved. At the same time, the bank will likely look for a financial institution that is willing to take it on. If this process does not go smoothly, a bridge bank could be created while the search for a sponsor continues, or Incubator Bank could simply be liquidated.

(The Nikkei Sept. 10 morning edition)

http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/latestnews.aspx
vrijdag 10 september 2010 03:12
09.09.2010
Investmentbanker: Die Zocker übernehmen die Macht

Während der Finanzkrise galten Investmentbanker als rücksichtslose Zocker, doch nun scheinen sie bereits rehabilitiert. Wenn es um die Führung mächtiger europäischer Großbanken geht, sind Investmentbanker wie Bob Diamond wieder erste Wahl - sehr zum Unmut einiger Politiker.

http://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/banken-versicherungen/investmentbanker-die-zocker-uebernehmen-die-macht;2651831
vrijdag 10 september 2010 03:46
A better way to fix the US housing crisis

Government policies to prop up the housing market not only have failed to fix the problem, they are prolonging the agony

Joseph Stiglitz
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 9 September 2010 13.00 BST

A sure sign of a dysfunctional market economy is the persistence of unemployment. In the United States today, one out of six workers who would like a full-time job can't find one. It is an economy with huge unmet needs and yet vast idle resources.

The housing market is another US anomaly: there are hundreds of thousands of homeless people (more than 1.5 million Americans spent at least one night in a shelter in 2009), while hundreds of thousands of houses sit vacant.

Indeed, the foreclosure rate is increasing. Two million Americans lost their homes in 2008, and 2.8 million more in 2009, but the numbers are expected to be even higher in 2010. Financial markets performed dismally – well-performing, "rational" markets do not lend to people who cannot or will not repay – and yet those running these markets were rewarded as if they were financial geniuses.

None of this is news. What is news is the Obama administration's reluctant and belated recognition that its efforts to get the housing and mortgage markets working again have largely failed. Curiously, there is a growing consensus on both the left and the right that the government will have to continue propping up the housing market for the foreseeable future. This stance is perplexing and possibly dangerous.

It is perplexing because in conventional analyses of which activities should be in the public domain, running the national mortgage market is never mentioned. Mastering the specific information related to assessing creditworthiness and monitoring the performance of loans is precisely the kind of thing at which the private sector is supposed to excel.

It is, however, an understandable position: both US political parties supported policies that encouraged excessive investment in housing and excessive leverage, while free-market ideology dissuaded regulators from intervening to stop reckless lending. If the government were to walk away now, real-estate prices would fall even further, banks would come under even greater financial stress, and the economy's short-run prospects would become bleaker.

But that is precisely why a government-managed mortgage market is dangerous. Distorted interest rates, official guarantees and tax subsidies encourage continued investment in real estate, when what the economy needs is investment in, say, technology and clean energy.

Moreover, continuing investment in real estate makes it all the more difficult to wean the economy off its real-estate addiction, and the real-estate market off its addiction to government support. Supporting further real-estate investment would make the sector's value even more dependent on government policies, ensuring that future policymakers face greater political pressure from interest groups like real-estate developers and bonds holders.

Current US policy is befuddled, to say the least. The Federal Reserve Board is no longer the lender of last resort, but the lender of first resort. Credit risk in the mortgage market is being assumed by the government, and market risk by the Fed. No one should be surprised at what has now happened: the private market has essentially disappeared.

The government has announced that these measures, which work (if they do work) by lowering interest rates, are temporary. But that means that when intervention comes to an end, interest rates will rise – and any holder of mortgage-backed bonds would experience a capital loss – potentially a large one.

No private party would buy such an asset. By contrast, the Fed doesn't have to recognise the loss; while free-market advocates might talk about the virtues of market pricing and "price discovery", the Fed can pretend that nothing has happened.

With the government assuming credit risk, mortgages become as safe as government bonds of comparable maturity. Hence, the Fed's intervention in the housing market is really an intervention in the government bond market; the purported "switch" from buying mortgages to buying government bonds is of little significance. The Fed is engaged in the difficult task of trying to set not just the short-term interest rate, but longer-term rates as well.

Resuscitating the housing market is all the more difficult for two reasons. First, the banks that used to do conventional mortgage lending are in bad financial shape. Second, the securitisation model is badly broken and not likely to be replaced anytime soon. Unfortunately, neither the Obama administration nor the Fed seems willing to face these realities.

Securitisation – putting large numbers of mortgages together to be sold to pension funds and investors around the world – worked only because there were rating agencies that were trusted to ensure that mortgage loans were given to people who would repay them. Today, no one will or should trust the rating agencies, or the investment banks that purveyed flawed products (sometimes designing them to lose money).

In short, government policies to support the housing market not only have failed to fix the problem, but are prolonging the deleveraging process and creating the conditions for Japanese-style malaise. Avoiding this dismal "new normal" will be difficult, but there are alternative policies with far better prospects of returning the US and the global economy to prosperity.

Corporations have learned how to take bad news in stride, write down losses, and move on, but our governments have not. For one out of four US mortgages, the debt exceeds the home's value. Evictions merely create more homeless people and more vacant homes. What is needed is a quick write-down of the value of the mortgages. Banks will have to recognise the losses and, if necessary, find the additional capital to meet reserve requirements.

This, of course, will be painful for banks, but their pain will be nothing in comparison to the suffering they have inflicted on people throughout the rest of the global economy.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/sep/09/us-housing-crisis-policies
vrijdag 10 september 2010 06:11
The Wall Street Journal

BUSINESS
SEPTEMBER 10, 2010

The Traders Who Skip Most of the Day
At Briargate, Stock Market's Open and Close Is All That Matters. Then, Golf.

By KRISTINA PETERSON

For Briargate's Rick Oscher, Steven Rubinstein and James DeMaira, 'midday action' means soaking up the sun.

NEW YORK—On the day the "flash crash" bludgeoned the stock market and chaos swept over the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, the founders of Briargate Trading were at the movies.

Rick Oscher and Steven Rubinstein weren't playing hooky. Briargate, a proprietary-trading firm that the two former NYSE floor "specialist" traders started in 2008, is mostly active at the stock market's open and close.

In between, when market activity typically drops, the Wall Street veterans play tennis in Central Park, take leisurely lunches, visit their children's schools and work out at the gym. Dress shoes have been replaced with flip-flops, slacks with cargo shorts. Once during market hours, they walked about five miles and crossed the Brooklyn Bridge to try Grimaldi's pizza.

"We actually planned on working a full day," says Mr. Oscher, wearing a white polo shirt and blue-plaid shorts. "But from 11 to 2, the markets are pretty quiet—what's the point? As a specialist, you have to stand in your spot all day and we did that for 20 years."

Briargate—an anagram of "arbitrage"—isn't the only firm taking an extended recess during the 6½-hour U.S. trading day. Trading has become increasingly concentrated in the first and last hours of the session.

Those two hours now make up more than half of the entire day's trading volume, according to an analysis of data provided by Thomson Reuters. In August, the first and last hour generated nearly 58% of New York Stock Exchange primary volume, up from 45% in August 2005, the analysis shows. The rise of high-frequency trading, where algorithms are used to exploit small discrepancies in high-volume situations, amplifies the concentration of trading at the beginning and end of the day, analysts say.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704392104575475781704072278.html?mod=WSJ_business_LeftSecondHighlights
 
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