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pattie300 schreef op 1 november 2012 11:58:

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met 'iedereen' bedoel ik niet specifiek beleggers. het is meer een woord wat ik nu ff gebruik om het ongeloof in pharming te benadrukken.

het is namelijk wel een feit dat de omzet cijfers steeds ietsje positiever uitvallen.

en wat betreft misleiding; beleggers die geen eigen analyse van een bedrijf willen maken en met de rest meelopen moet niet zeuren als ze er naast zitten en dan toch verlies maken.
ik weet namelijk heel goed dat er op dit moment gewoon een soort hype rond pharming ontstaan is. PHARMING@!!! PHARMING !!! PHARMING!!! for the WIN!!! :P

maar laten we het gezellig houden...
het is en blijft speculatief over wat er nou precies uit komt rollen.
Hype in je hoofd.
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Ph staat er niet tussen.....en dat gaat ook niet gebeuren.

5 Strong Pharmaceuticals To Buy Now For Gains In 2013
There are few things quite so profitable as a government sanctioned monopoly. And when that monopoly is granted in a market with growing demand (the result of irresistible demographic forces), the stage is set for considerable value creation.

Yes, the pharmaceutical industry is a profitable one. But that river of profits comes with a dark side. Regardless of the size of these companies, they and their shareholders have learned, to the dismay of both groups, that research and development efforts do not necessarily scale. That is, it is difficult to forecast the payoff of an incremental $1 billion spent in R&D. With a need to constantly replenish their roster of patent-protected drugs, many pharmaceutical companies have aggressively used their financial heft to buy the innovation that they are increasingly hard-pressed to deliver internally. Great deal for biotechnology companies, questionable deal for pharma shareholders.

Here I will analyze five of the giants, and see how they stack up. In this analysis, I will focus on measures suggestive of management's ability to operate with financial discipline, rather than digging into the pipeline of drugs in development for each of these behemoths.



Pfizer (PFE)

SG&A: Over the past three years, SG&A as a % of sales has jumped to 32.5% from 30.5%.

Research & Development: While this expense increased 16.5% between FY09 and FY11, when viewed as a % of sales, it appears that management has managed to wring some efficiencies out of their massive R&D program. The amount has dropped more than two percentage points, to 13.5% from 15.9%.

Cash and Short-Term Investments: $3.5 billion in cash and $23.3 billion in short-term investments sat on the balance sheet as of FY11.

Debt: Net Debt is $42.3 billion, down considerably from $55.7 billion in FY09. Leverage has dropped to 1.4x, from 2.2x.

Goodwill: At $45 billion, goodwill is a worryingly high 54.8% of shareholders' equity ($82.2 billion), up nearly 8 percentage points since FY09.



Merck (MRK)

SG&A: Over the past three years, SG&A as a % of sales has dropped to 28.6% from 31.1%.

Research & Development: Another case of a nominal increase paired with a decline as a % of sales. At nearly $8.5 billion, the 17.6% of sales that Merck spent in FY11 shows considerable improvement over the 24.2% level of FY10.

Cash and Short-Term Investments: $13.5 billion in cash and $1.4 billion in short-term investments sat on the balance sheet as of FY11, representing increases of 45% and over 390%, respectively, as compared to FY09 levels.

Debt: Management has been conservative with leverage. Net Debt is $4 billion, down considerably from $8.2 billion in FY09. Leverage has dropped to 0.2x, from 0.8x.

Goodwill: Goodwill tells the story of a management team that has been (at least relatively speaking) conservative in terms of doing its R&D in the markets rather than in the lab. At $12.1 billion, goodwill is only 22.3% of shareholders' equity ($54.5 billion), and the nominal value has fluctuated by less than $250 million since FY09.



AstraZeneca (AZN)

SG&A: Somebody is showing restraint. With sales up only 2.4% over the period (to $33.6 billion in FY11), SG&A was reduced from $11.1 billion and 33.8% of sales in FY09 to $9.2 billion and 27.5% of sales in FY11.

Research & Development: Nearly flat sales seem to have spooked management into pumping an additional $1 billion into R&D, which rose to $5.5 billion and 16.4% of sales, from $4.4 billion and 13.4% of sales in FY09.

Cash and Short-Term Investments: Cumulatively, these two are virtually unchanged between FY09 and FY11, was $11.5 billion, now $11.9 billion.

Debt: Another conservative management team. Net debt is a miniscule $2.1 billion, for leverage of only 0.1x.

Goodwill: Management may be spending on R&D, but they are doing their research the old-fashioned way (i.e. in the lab). Goodwill is virtually unchanged at $9.9 billion, 42.4% of shareholders' equity in FY11.



GlaxoSmithKline (GSK)

SG&A: Managing costs is tough. When sales are growing, it is easy to lose discipline, and when sales are declining, it is incredibly difficult to rationalize costs quickly and steeply enough to keep pace with the decline. The team at GlaxoSmithKline has nearly managed it, though. With sales down 7.1% since FY09, SG&A has been reduced by $850 million, ticking up less than half a percentage point from 29.8% to 30.1%.

Research & Development: Falling sales and reduced spending (down $400 million since FY09) in a major pharmaceutical company! This is a management team to watch.

Cash and Short-Term Investments: Cumulatively, these two are down approximately $2 billion since FY09, to $9.4 billion.

Debt: $14.3 billion in net debt sounds like a lot, but it is hard to get worried about leverage of only 0.8x (the same level as FY09).

Goodwill: Up only $400 million (to $5.8 billion) since FY09, as a % of shareholders' equity it has exploded to 46.7%, from 33.6% in FY09. Declining shareholder's equity (down $3.7 billion) will do that.



Novartis (NVS)

SG&A: Sales up 21%, SG&A up $1.5 billion in nominal terms and down three percentage points (to 32.0%, from 35.1%) between FY09 and FY11? Call that a win.

Research & Development: I worry when I see companies with strong sales growth jacking up their R&D spend in this industry, it smacks of a lack of discipline. The increase was nearly $1.9 billion between FY09 and FY11, though as a % of sales it looks somewhat between, rising less than one percentage point (to 17.6%, from 16.9%).

Cash and Short-Term Investments: Cumulative increase of $2 billion (now $8.1 billion).

Debt: Looking at leverage, it seems that not much has happened here, with the value coming in at 0.9x, up from 0.3x in FY09. But that masks the explosion in the nominal value (up $12.3 billion) to $17.7 billion.

Goodwill: Whenever you see a big jump in goodwill (in this case, $18.4 billion), you cross your fingers that whatever "transformative acquisition" lives up to its promise. Goodwill is now 47.0% of shareholders' equity.

Place Your Bets

There are no weaklings in this bunch. Each company is financially strong and has a broad base. They can ramp up investment or go out and buy something if their pipeline starts to look worrisome, and their sheer size promises cost cutting opportunities if and when necessary.

With that said, AstraZeneca looks like the best pick of this group. On a relative valuation basis, it looks cheap at 5.4x EBITDA (TTM), and as a bonus, investors can look to the 27.1% return on equity management has delivered (actually second best in this group to GlaxoSmithKline's eye-popping 63.1%, but the market seems to have bid that company up far enough). With sales basically flat over the past three years, this looks like a company that is just a little too boring to get the attention it deserves. I urge investors to consider buying these five stocks now, and let their disciplined management teams get to work for you.
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CashMeister schreef op 1 november 2012 12:36:

Ph staat er niet tussen.....en dat gaat ook niet gebeuren.

5 Strong Pharmaceuticals To Buy Now For Gains In 2013
There are few things quite so profitable as a government sanctioned monopoly. And when that monopoly is granted in a market with growing demand (the result of irresistible demographic forces), the stage is set for considerable value creation.

Yes, the pharmaceutical industry is a profitable one. But that river of profits comes with a dark side. Regardless of the size of these companies, they and their shareholders have learned, to the dismay of both groups, that research and development efforts do not necessarily scale. That is, it is difficult to forecast the payoff of an incremental $1 billion spent in R&D. With a need to constantly replenish their roster of patent-protected drugs, many pharmaceutical companies have aggressively used their financial heft to buy the innovation that they are increasingly hard-pressed to deliver internally. Great deal for biotechnology companies, questionable deal for pharma shareholders.

Here I will analyze five of the giants, and see how they stack up. In this analysis, I will focus on measures suggestive of management's ability to operate with financial discipline, rather than digging into the pipeline of drugs in development for each of these behemoths.



Pfizer (PFE)

SG&A: Over the past three years, SG&A as a % of sales has jumped to 32.5% from 30.5%.

Research & Development: While this expense increased 16.5% between FY09 and FY11, when viewed as a % of sales, it appears that management has managed to wring some efficiencies out of their massive R&D program. The amount has dropped more than two percentage points, to 13.5% from 15.9%.

Cash and Short-Term Investments: $3.5 billion in cash and $23.3 billion in short-term investments sat on the balance sheet as of FY11.

Debt: Net Debt is $42.3 billion, down considerably from $55.7 billion in FY09. Leverage has dropped to 1.4x, from 2.2x.

Goodwill: At $45 billion, goodwill is a worryingly high 54.8% of shareholders' equity ($82.2 billion), up nearly 8 percentage points since FY09.



Merck (MRK)

SG&A: Over the past three years, SG&A as a % of sales has dropped to 28.6% from 31.1%.

Research & Development: Another case of a nominal increase paired with a decline as a % of sales. At nearly $8.5 billion, the 17.6% of sales that Merck spent in FY11 shows considerable improvement over the 24.2% level of FY10.

Cash and Short-Term Investments: $13.5 billion in cash and $1.4 billion in short-term investments sat on the balance sheet as of FY11, representing increases of 45% and over 390%, respectively, as compared to FY09 levels.

Debt: Management has been conservative with leverage. Net Debt is $4 billion, down considerably from $8.2 billion in FY09. Leverage has dropped to 0.2x, from 0.8x.

Goodwill: Goodwill tells the story of a management team that has been (at least relatively speaking) conservative in terms of doing its R&D in the markets rather than in the lab. At $12.1 billion, goodwill is only 22.3% of shareholders' equity ($54.5 billion), and the nominal value has fluctuated by less than $250 million since FY09.



AstraZeneca (AZN)

SG&A: Somebody is showing restraint. With sales up only 2.4% over the period (to $33.6 billion in FY11), SG&A was reduced from $11.1 billion and 33.8% of sales in FY09 to $9.2 billion and 27.5% of sales in FY11.

Research & Development: Nearly flat sales seem to have spooked management into pumping an additional $1 billion into R&D, which rose to $5.5 billion and 16.4% of sales, from $4.4 billion and 13.4% of sales in FY09.

Cash and Short-Term Investments: Cumulatively, these two are virtually unchanged between FY09 and FY11, was $11.5 billion, now $11.9 billion.

Debt: Another conservative management team. Net debt is a miniscule $2.1 billion, for leverage of only 0.1x.

Goodwill: Management may be spending on R&D, but they are doing their research the old-fashioned way (i.e. in the lab). Goodwill is virtually unchanged at $9.9 billion, 42.4% of shareholders' equity in FY11.



GlaxoSmithKline (GSK)

SG&A: Managing costs is tough. When sales are growing, it is easy to lose discipline, and when sales are declining, it is incredibly difficult to rationalize costs quickly and steeply enough to keep pace with the decline. The team at GlaxoSmithKline has nearly managed it, though. With sales down 7.1% since FY09, SG&A has been reduced by $850 million, ticking up less than half a percentage point from 29.8% to 30.1%.

Research & Development: Falling sales and reduced spending (down $400 million since FY09) in a major pharmaceutical company! This is a management team to watch.

Cash and Short-Term Investments: Cumulatively, these two are down approximately $2 billion since FY09, to $9.4 billion.

Debt: $14.3 billion in net debt sounds like a lot, but it is hard to get worried about leverage of only 0.8x (the same level as FY09).

Goodwill: Up only $400 million (to $5.8 billion) since FY09, as a % of shareholders' equity it has exploded to 46.7%, from 33.6% in FY09. Declining shareholder's equity (down $3.7 billion) will do that.



Novartis (NVS)

SG&A: Sales up 21%, SG&A up $1.5 billion in nominal terms and down three percentage points (to 32.0%, from 35.1%) between FY09 and FY11? Call that a win.

Research & Development: I worry when I see companies with strong sales growth jacking up their R&D spend in this industry, it smacks of a lack of discipline. The increase was nearly $1.9 billion between FY09 and FY11, though as a % of sales it looks somewhat between, rising less than one percentage point (to 17.6%, from 16.9%).

Cash and Short-Term Investments: Cumulative increase of $2 billion (now $8.1 billion).

Debt: Looking at leverage, it seems that not much has happened here, with the value coming in at 0.9x, up from 0.3x in FY09. But that masks the explosion in the nominal value (up $12.3 billion) to $17.7 billion.

Goodwill: Whenever you see a big jump in goodwill (in this case, $18.4 billion), you cross your fingers that whatever "transformative acquisition" lives up to its promise. Goodwill is now 47.0% of shareholders' equity.

Place Your Bets

There are no weaklings in this bunch. Each company is financially strong and has a broad base. They can ramp up investment or go out and buy something if their pipeline starts to look worrisome, and their sheer size promises cost cutting opportunities if and when necessary.

With that said, AstraZeneca looks like the best pick of this group. On a relative valuation basis, it looks cheap at 5.4x EBITDA (TTM), and as a bonus, investors can look to the 27.1% return on equity management has delivered (actually second best in this group to GlaxoSmithKline's eye-popping 63.1%, but the market seems to have bid that company up far enough). With sales basically flat over the past three years, this looks like a company that is just a little too boring to get the attention it deserves. I urge investors to consider buying these five stocks now, and let their disciplined management teams get to work for you.
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pattie300 schreef:

iedereen weet het al maar wil het nog niet uitspreken, pharming komt er langzamerhand weer bovenop. sinds het begin van het jaar laat pharming weer langzamerhand positieve resultaten zien de winst groeit beetje bij beetje en de verliezen worden ook weer wat minder. maar ineens een omslag dat ze winst zouden maken is er niet, dat zou zelfs absurd zijn. dus we moeten blij zijn met hoe pharming zich op dit moment verhoudt. vorige week geen grote aandelen uitgiftes meer geweest dus dat zegt ook al wat.
heel goed uitgelegd en ook wat er duidelijk speelt ja het is nog even geduld mensen haal de laat weg nu 3mio aandelen en we gaan heel snel omhoog let maar op. je lijkt wel gek nu te gaan verkopen op 0,031
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Als er echt is was geweest was hij nu niet gezakt naar 0,027/28. Waar praat je over 3tiende ct en daarvoor heb je 37 miljoen aandelen nodig om te bereiken. Gewoon nieuw jaar............
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ralph1978 schreef op 2 januari 2013 19:33:

Er staat wat aan te komen. Dit word een goed jaar voor dit aandeel
Laten we het hopen, de eerste handelsdag van 2013 was daar goed voor.
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