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Oeps..!
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Here - NVIDIA

Afbeelding (Here) lijkt erg op road DNA. Kan iemand mij uitleggen wat de verschillen zijn?
Is het niet gevaarlijk dat NVIDA kennis van T2 opdoet en daar mee aan de haal gaat?

www.hardwarezone.com.sg/tech-news-nvi...
Oeps..!
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Lockheed Martin has announced Hydra Fusion, a software that allows real time 3D mapping using video streams from both stationary and mobile cameras. It has been designed principally to convert video streams captured by a drone (although it can also leverage on combined video streams generated by several drones) into a 3D rendering.

www.eitdigital.eu/news-events/blog/ar...
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NXP is ook al aardig op dreef met hun eerder dit jaar verschenen Bluebox:
youtu.be/p3UTPScjEcU

(selfdriving oa a predefined route)
NXP BlueBox autonomous driving development platform with AutonomouStuff zips along the highways. AutonomouStuff, a leading company that supplies components, engineering services and software that help enable autonomy, fitted NXP BlueBox into one of their autonomous cars.
Oeps..!
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New LIDAR package makes it easier to add smarts to your smart car

Osram Opto Semiconductors has announced the availability of a LIDAR package – essentially the spinning laser array found on self-driving and mapping vehicles – that costs $5 and works as well as $70,000 tower systems and hockey-puck sized $8,000 systems.

This mini-LIDAR has four laser diodes connected together to ensure accuracy without tuning. The kit also includes tiny mirrors that track the beams and move at 2 kilohertz to track the environment in 3D using minute movements. It is eye-safe – it peaks and then shuts down quickly – and it is about the size of a hockey puck. From the release:

?The 4-channel LIDAR laser from Osram Opto Semiconductors consists of a laser bar with four individually controllable laser diodes and a control circuit integrated in the module. The entire module is surface-mountable, which reduces assembly costs and the time needed for fine adjustment at the customer.
To create the laser bar four laser diodes are produced next to one another in a single production step so they are precisely aligned to each other and can be individually controlled. “The new laser is a bar consisting of four laser diodes that are separated in the production process but are not individual diodes. The result is a laser that emits four perfectly parallel beams. Our customers no longer have to spend time laboriously adjusting the individual light sources”, explained Sebastian Bauer, the product manager at Osram.
LIDAR is a key technology in 3D mapping and self-driving vehicles. By mass producing the diode array and selling it cheaply Osram is tearing down a massive barrier for researchers and startups. The new package will ship in 2017.

techcrunch.com/2016/11/15/new-lidar-p...
mjmj
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Oeps..! schreef op 16 november 2016 02:59:

New LIDAR package makes it easier to add smarts to your smart car

Osram Opto Semiconductors has announced the availability of a LIDAR package – essentially the spinning laser array found on self-driving and mapping vehicles – that costs $5 and works as well as $70,000 tower systems and hockey-puck sized $8,000 systems.

This mini-LIDAR has four laser diodes connected together to ensure accuracy without tuning. The kit also includes tiny mirrors that track the beams and move at 2 kilohertz to track the environment in 3D using minute movements. It is eye-safe – it peaks and then shuts down quickly – and it is about the size of a hockey puck. From the release:

?The 4-channel LIDAR laser from Osram Opto Semiconductors consists of a laser bar with four individually controllable laser diodes and a control circuit integrated in the module. The entire module is surface-mountable, which reduces assembly costs and the time needed for fine adjustment at the customer.
To create the laser bar four laser diodes are produced next to one another in a single production step so they are precisely aligned to each other and can be individually controlled. “The new laser is a bar consisting of four laser diodes that are separated in the production process but are not individual diodes. The result is a laser that emits four perfectly parallel beams. Our customers no longer have to spend time laboriously adjusting the individual light sources”, explained Sebastian Bauer, the product manager at Osram.
LIDAR is a key technology in 3D mapping and self-driving vehicles. By mass producing the diode array and selling it cheaply Osram is tearing down a massive barrier for researchers and startups. The new package will ship in 2017.

techcrunch.com/2016/11/15/new-lidar-p...
Interessant... lijkt me iets voor de techies hier om de implicaties van deze hockey puck in beeld te brengen!
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mjmj schreef op 16 november 2016 13:43:

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Interessant... lijkt me iets voor de techies hier om de implicaties van deze hockey puck in beeld te brengen!
Tja, geweldig goed nieuws natuurlijk. Er waren al diverse anderen mee bezig. Als je puur naar de specs kijkt is het indrukwekkend wat ze met deze 4-kanaals Lidar kunnen. Iets minder horizontale/verticale resolutie dan een topmodel Velodyne-64, deze heeft natuurlijk een 360° Field of View. Dat is bij de Osram maar 120°. Dus daar heb je er dan 3 voor nodig om ook een 360° zicht te hebben.
Indrukwekkend is het bereik van 200 meter voertuigdetectie en 70 meter voetgangerdetectie bij daglicht, dat is bij de Velodyne 120 meter op zijn best
Goeie toekomstverwachtingen dus (leverdatum trouwens pas in 2018).
mjmj
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Hik schreef op 16 november 2016 14:47:

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Tja, geweldig goed nieuws natuurlijk. Er waren al diverse anderen mee bezig. Als je puur naar de specs kijkt is het indrukwekkend wat ze met deze 4-kanaals Lidar kunnen. Iets minder horizontale/verticale resolutie dan een topmodel Velodyne-64, deze heeft natuurlijk een 360° Field of View. Dat is bij de Osram maar 120°. Dus daar heb je er dan 3 voor nodig om ook een 360° zicht te hebben.
Indrukwekkend is het bereik van 200 meter voertuigdetectie en 70 meter voetgangerdetectie bij daglicht, dat is bij de Velodyne 120 meter op zijn best
Goeie toekomstverwachtingen dus (leverdatum trouwens pas in 2018).
... implicaties voor TT?
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mjmj schreef op 16 november 2016 18:23:

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... implicaties voor TT?
Zoals gezegd: pas in 2018 leverbaar, dus voor de eerste generatie Autonomous >=L3 moeten duurdere componenten gebruikt worden. Geen probleem, want het zullen toch de duurdere modellen zijn die deze functionaliteit bezitten. Op lange termijn is dit soort ontwikkelingen wel een enabler om ook de low-end modellen met geavanceerde ADAS/HAD uit te rusten zonder significante prijsverhogingen te hoeven hanteren.
De Nvidia PX2 was bij introductie ook iets van $10.000? Het kleine afgeslankte modelletje zal misschien nog maar $1000 ofzo kosten? Dan nog de effecten van schaalvergroting meerekenenn. Het wordt allemaal steeds bereikbaarder op deze manier.

TomTom lijkt ook in de laatste presentatie wel te rekenen op de aanwezigheid van Lidar (slides over verkeersborden herkenning). Wat dat betreft hoeft de prijs in ieder geval geen spelbreker meer te zijn (nou nog zo'n eigenwijze Musk over de streep trekken). Stel dat je er maximaal 4 nodig hebt; op iedere hoek van de auto één; gaat qua kostprijs nergens over natuurlijk. Je moet nog wel steeds zorgen voor voldoende computingpower lokaal om al die sensorinput te kunnen verwerken. Daar zit ook nog een addertje onder het gras: twee Velodynes gebruiken maar 2 inputkanalen en 4 goedkope Osrams verbruiken wel gelijk 4 inputkanalen. De vraag is natuurlijk in hoeverre daar ook weer verdere ontwikkelingen in komen en of dat ze daarin staffelen van 8-16-32 o.i.d.
mjmj
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Kunnen de camera-wagens van TT nu vervangen worden door bv taxi's of auto's van de parkeerpolitie, uitgerust met deze goedkope lidars?
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mjmj schreef op 16 november 2016 20:01:

Kunnen de camera-wagens van TT nu vervangen worden door bv taxi's of auto's van de parkeerpolitie, uitgerust met deze goedkope lidars?
Nou, sterker nog, als je de slides van TomTom ziet is dat natuurlijk ook gewoon de bedoeling. Maar ik sluit niet uit dat voor een gedetailleerde eerste keer in kaart brengen van (bijv. stedelijk) gebied je daar de hoogst mogelijke initiële kwaliteit voor wilt en dit dus met een Mapping van blijft doen. Het onderhoud echter kun je gewoon volautomatisch met deze 'probes' doen die over niet al te lange tijd in alle auto's te vinden zullen zijn.
pim f
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Mobileye Could Collapse By Next Spring, According To Trip Chowdhry
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Jayson Derrick
BenzingaNovember 16, 2016

Trip Chowdhry of Global Equities Research has never shied away from explaining his uber-bearish stance on many technology stocks, including Mobileye NV (NYSE: MBLY).

Advantage 'Not Durable'

Chowdhry reiterated his negative stance on Mobileye on Wednesday and argued that the market continues to move away from the Israel-based provider of advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS) and autonomous driving technologies. Specifically, Autoliv has won a deal with Volvo, NextChip is trying to win a contract with Korean automakers and Germany-based Continental AG is looking to win contracts across Europe and the United States.

"Mobileye's first mover advantage is not durable," the analyst wrote. "Competition from Autoliv, Nextchip and Continental is going to make new design wins difficult for Mobileye."

Chowdhry added that the auto industry has almost decided that Sensor Fusion represents the future of the autonomous driving space and cameras merely play a secondary role.

What Happens In The Spring?

Chowdhry also suggested that in March of next year, Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ: TSLA) is likely to show off its vastly improved self-driving and safety features in its Model S and Model X vehicles with its Sensor Suite and new software upgrade.

Accordingly, Mobileye's business is "probably okay" for the next four to six months, but after that, the company could collapse.

Finally, the analyst suggested that a fair value for Mobileye is an enterprise value of between $500 million to $1.0 billion.

finance.yahoo.com/news/mobileye-could...

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Mooi gevonden pim f. Dikke AB!

Zelf denk ik er op hoofdlijnen hetzelfde over. Dat Tesla stopt met Mobileye zegt genoeg! (bluffen ook veel en schreeuwen dat ze het allemaal wel even zelf doen, maar kiezen ondertussen vrijwel zeker voor Bosch-Nvidia-TomTom inside). Tesla gelooft niet langer in de roadmap van Mobileye.

Het is verder ook niet voor niets dat de autofabrikanten het ondertekenen van de vermeende contracten uitstellen en uitstellen (van uitstel komt afstel?).
En dat de CEO van Mobileye grote hoeveelheden van zijn eigen aandelen verkoopt.

Bij de CES in januari het laatste blufverhaal van Mobileye?
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Hilarische posten hierboven, dankjewel.
Aangezien de markt altijd gelijk heeft:
Koers vandaag Mobileye +3,06%, TomTom -0,16%
Tomtom is geen autonomous driving, maar een DeepDiving aandeel geworden.

Nu weer even serieus:
Deeplearning in autonomous driving
visionsystemsintelligence.com/deep-le...
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Dutchy Ron
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www.eejournal.com/archives/articles/2...

Managing the Automotive Automation Transition
Will You Know How Someone Else’s Car Works?

Lang verhaal voor de nachtbrakers, lees het morgen wel.

NB: zie ook de link naar het rapport onderin het artikel (116blz)
Zie www.nhtsa.gov/nhtsa/av/pdf/Federal_Au...

B_B
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NOV 17, 2016
Carmakers Plot A Future Without Google And Apple

A three-day conference ended today in Tokyo, where automakers, IT companies and government representatives from around the world deliberated the future of the connected and autonomous car. Notably absent were Google and Apple, and I left the conference with the distinct impression that Google and Apple will be absent in the future, also.

The centerpiece of the connected and autonomous car will be a dynamic map, precise up to a few inches, and containing far more data than a Google map: Is an on-street parking spot becoming available? Has the speed limit changed? Will it rain in 10 minutes? Is there a free bay in a charging station? Ice on the road? School bus? Accident?

Who will produce these maps? Our cars will. Any car attempting to be halfway autonomous needs a sensor suite that goes far beyond Google’s streetview car. Connected to the cloud, millions of these sensor-studded cars will produce dynamic maps as up-to-date as what is seen by the cars in front of us.

And why can’t Google or Apple produce these maps? Their software would need to be integrated with the carmakers’ hardware, and it is becoming plainly evident that carmakers won’t let that happen.

Carmakers around the world are lining up behind Automotive Grade Linux as the operating system for their connected cars. “For the car industry, Automotive Grade Linux is very analogous to what Android did for the mobile phone industry,” said Dan Cauchy, Executive Director of the AGL project. This time, the software won’t be supplied by Google. Under the umbrella of the non-profit Linux Foundation, AGL is an open source collaborative effort of automakers and suppliers around the world.

And why not let Google supply a free Auto-Android? Because it’s not really open source, said Cauchy:

“Their non-fragmentation agreement does not allow taking out parts of it, because Google wants control of the services such as the browser, search, maps, contacts, calendar, and more. A lot of people in the industry do not want that kind of approach. They want to be in control of the relationship with the customer.”

With, said Cauchy, “everything in the car that has a processor running AGL,” the data picked up by the sensors need to be pumped to the cloud, and then back to all cars. This is where the participants at this week’s Tokyo conference come in.

“Four out of five cars sold in Europe and North America already use our maps,” we heard from Ahmed Nasr, head of industry and government relations of the digital mapmaker HERE, a company created after Germany’s carmaker powerhouses Daimler, BMW and Volkswagen jointly spent $3.1 billion to buy Nokia’s mapmaking business in another move to compete with Google and its allegedly free maps. HERE is set to become a powerhouse of dynamic maps. Already, millions of updates are made to HERE maps each day, and the sensors in our cars haven’t quite started pumping data.

HERE’s Japanese counter-part is Dynamic Map Planning Co., a company that has all major Japanese carmakers as investors, as the company’s President Tsutomu Nakajima proudly demonstrated. Soon, Japan will embark on a gigantic field-test of the technology, up and down Japan’s main Honshu island.

Who will be the winner of the mapmaker battle? Maybe both. Automotive News picked up rumors that HERE might be looking for a Japanese partner, and at this week’s conference, it seemed as if HERE and Dynamic Map Planning got along just fine.


One thing is clear: If Google and Apple want to supply the brains of future cars, they will have to build their own. Carmakers appear to be dead-set against Google and Apple, and they don’t seem to need them.

www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmitt/20...
mjmj
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Vraag: SDC trend is niet hetzelfde als ride sharing maar ik neem aan dat er overlap is wat technologie betreft.

Heb je voor ride sharing niet sowieso locatiegegevens nodig en is dat gegeven niet sterk in het voordeel van mapmakers?

Rekeningrijden en tolheffing lijkt ook een trend. Geldt daarbij niet hetzelfde?
harrysnel
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B_B schreef op 18 november 2016 00:31:

NOV 17, 2016
Carmakers Plot A Future Without Google And Apple

A three-day conference ended today in Tokyo, where automakers, IT companies and government representatives from around the world deliberated the future of the connected and autonomous car. Notably absent were Google and Apple, and I left the conference with the distinct impression that Google and Apple will be absent in the future, also.

The centerpiece of the connected and autonomous car will be a dynamic map, precise up to a few inches, and containing far more data than a Google map: Is an on-street parking spot becoming available? Has the speed limit changed? Will it rain in 10 minutes? Is there a free bay in a charging station? Ice on the road? School bus? Accident?

Who will produce these maps? Our cars will. Any car attempting to be halfway autonomous needs a sensor suite that goes far beyond Google’s streetview car. Connected to the cloud, millions of these sensor-studded cars will produce dynamic maps as up-to-date as what is seen by the cars in front of us.

And why can’t Google or Apple produce these maps? Their software would need to be integrated with the carmakers’ hardware, and it is becoming plainly evident that carmakers won’t let that happen.

Carmakers around the world are lining up behind Automotive Grade Linux as the operating system for their connected cars. “For the car industry, Automotive Grade Linux is very analogous to what Android did for the mobile phone industry,” said Dan Cauchy, Executive Director of the AGL project. This time, the software won’t be supplied by Google. Under the umbrella of the non-profit Linux Foundation, AGL is an open source collaborative effort of automakers and suppliers around the world.

And why not let Google supply a free Auto-Android? Because it’s not really open source, said Cauchy:

“Their non-fragmentation agreement does not allow taking out parts of it, because Google wants control of the services such as the browser, search, maps, contacts, calendar, and more. A lot of people in the industry do not want that kind of approach. They want to be in control of the relationship with the customer.”

With, said Cauchy, “everything in the car that has a processor running AGL,” the data picked up by the sensors need to be pumped to the cloud, and then back to all cars. This is where the participants at this week’s Tokyo conference come in.

“Four out of five cars sold in Europe and North America already use our maps,” we heard from Ahmed Nasr, head of industry and government relations of the digital mapmaker HERE, a company created after Germany’s carmaker powerhouses Daimler, BMW and Volkswagen jointly spent $3.1 billion to buy Nokia’s mapmaking business in another move to compete with Google and its allegedly free maps. HERE is set to become a powerhouse of dynamic maps. Already, millions of updates are made to HERE maps each day, and the sensors in our cars haven’t quite started pumping data.

HERE’s Japanese counter-part is Dynamic Map Planning Co., a company that has all major Japanese carmakers as investors, as the company’s President Tsutomu Nakajima proudly demonstrated. Soon, Japan will embark on a gigantic field-test of the technology, up and down Japan’s main Honshu island.

Who will be the winner of the mapmaker battle? Maybe both. Automotive News picked up rumors that HERE might be looking for a Japanese partner, and at this week’s conference, it seemed as if HERE and Dynamic Map Planning got along just fine.


One thing is clear: If Google and Apple want to supply the brains of future cars, they will have to build their own. Carmakers appear to be dead-set against Google and Apple, and they don’t seem to need them.

www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmitt/20...
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