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[verwijderd] 20 maart 2013 22:58

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na de post van kerremelk was het draadje niet meer te bereiken.... had het te maken met de link die hij er op zette.....

[verwijderd] 20 maart 2013 23:52

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via tablet (firefox browser) niet. Via pc, (chrome) in ieder geval wel.

[verwijderd] 20 maart 2013 23:55

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heb ook pc geprobeerd maar dat lukte ook niet.

Je kan alle forums bekijken behalve laatste post bij het ommekeer forum.

WEBJE 21 maart 2013 00:37

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ik heb het gelezen maar wou het vertalen en alles was weg ,ga het proberen via geschiedenis terug op te vragen ik vond en vind dit raar

WEBJE 21 maart 2013 00:39

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nu geraak ik er weer niet op het oude draadje

WEBJE 21 maart 2013 01:00

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Probeer dit eens te lezen

WEBJE 21 maart 2013 01:06

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Internal rates ofreturn and yields. To Fortress’s knowledge, there are no established standards forthe calculation of internalrates ofreturn or yields (“Returns”) for investment portfolios of the sort discussed

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Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (FSMA) and the Code of Market Conduct made pursuant to FSMA) which would ormight amounttomarket abuse forthe purposes of FSMA.? Eurocastle Investment Ltd. (“Eurocastle”) is a publicly traded European property company externally managed by an
affiliate of Fortress Investment Group (“Fortress”) with a current market cap of €34 million(1)
? Eurocastle’s current financial situation does not accommodate the servicing of its convertible debt on a current basis
? The Company proposes to clean up its capital structure by re-striking the conversion price from €0.30 to €0.05 per
share in exchange for the right to require conversion. Conditional on such conversion, Fortress and the Company
have agreed to rebase the management fee calculation, thereby preserving capital for investment
? Initially going to concentrate on new investment opportunities around distressed Italian loans and real estate
? Convertible security holders’ approval is required by March 28th to implement the proposed changes
Executive Summary
Page 2
Proposal:
? Restructure the terms of the convertible debt
? Rebase management fee to preserve cash for investment and anticipated
resumption of dividend
? Shift investment focus to new asset class
(1)

WEBJE 21 maart 2013 01:10

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ging het hierover denk het wel

[verwijderd] 21 maart 2013 07:19

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is dit niet een omweg naar de grote ommekeer
op iex werkt hij niet maar bij debeurs wel!
werkt ook

www.debeurs.nl/Forum/Topic/1296304/La...

ch@rter 21 maart 2013 09:32

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De moderator, kon die lange onsamenhangende tekst van Kerremelker waarschijnlijk niet aan. LOL

Al het goede komt van kerremelk-koeien!

[verwijderd] 21 maart 2013 10:17

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die link naar de presentatie -een PDF op eurocastle site, die zichtbaar was indien je land UK en landkode 44 opgaf- opent bij mij steeds in een nieuw tabblad.
Als uw browser die link opent in zelfde venster, dan moest je terugkeren.
De screenshot bijlage was berekend met cijfers uit kwartaal 4. Ook die bijlage opende hier in nieuw tabblad.

Het soms niet kunnen posten (forum topic niet gevonden) heeft allicht te maken met hoe de forum software omgaat met edits in bestaande berichten, en plaatsen v. nieuwe berichten tezelfdertijd.
JT

[verwijderd] 21 maart 2013 11:50

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komen de cijfers nou morgen of niet? ik las in vorige forums dat op 22 maart de cijfers over 2012 komen

[verwijderd] 21 maart 2013 12:00

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ja, die cijfers worden morgen geplaatst.
Eurocastle Investment Ltd. : quaterly earnings release
03/19/2013| 10:15am US/Eastern
The company will report its earnings for Q4 2012 on 03/22/2013. Generally, the company reports earnings worse than estimates. In recent months, the analysts from Thomson Reuters consensus have revised their EPS estimates downward.

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ch@rter 21 maart 2013 12:18

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Op 4 traders staat een zinnetje....the company reports earning worse than estimated.

Ben benieuwd morgen, waar ze mee gaan komen ten opzichte van de recente voorspelling vd jr cijfers.

Valt het mee dan blijft de bied op de .05 staan, zijn ze nog rotter dan eerder naar buiten gebracht, dan vermoed ik weinig biedingen in de .05.

We gaan het mañana wel zien wat er gebeurt.

WEBJE 21 maart 2013 12:30

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Ja zeker maar verkopen heeft ook geen zin ,doe je teveel verlies mee eens zal het wel terug stijgen ,en wat is consenseus van een aandeel ze zeggen ook geen getal he wat het nu waard is het aandeel van ect binnenkort kunnen we verkopen met 3 cijfers achter de komma.

[verwijderd] 21 maart 2013 13:37

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Hi,
dat laatste vroeg ik me ook al dikwijls af.
Hangt dat af van het aantal aandelen of niet?
Of hangt dat af van beurs kapitalisatie?
We gaan dat weten in juni 2013 zeker?

Met spreads van 1 volle cent zoals nu, of niet, kan veel verschil uitmaken voor de toekomst.
Jaak

WEBJE 21 maart 2013 16:00

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Wat is dat met het forum ,de zin opbouw wordt op een andere manier doorgegeven .Of kunnen wij niet meer schrijven ,,,

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