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Akanr1 9 december 2020 18:26

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Tartessos schreef op 9 december 2020 12:51:
Vraagje :

Als je dividend ontvangt van je Nokia aandelen dan houdt de Finse overheid geld in. Daarna moet je in Ned ook je dividend opgeven. Je betaald feitelijk twee keer.

Heb begrepen je je kunt terugvragen. Maar hoe en waar?

Je kan inderdaad de RV terugvragen in het land van oorsprong (finland). In de meeste gevallen is dit een gedeeltelijke terugbetaling en moet je hier een aantal formaliteiten voor verrichten. Als je werkt via een broker die niet gekoppeld is aan een bank, kan je de RV in de meeste gevallen niet terugvorderen, omdat de broker dit niet ondersteund. Als je via een bank belegd, kan je vragen aan de bank om de RV van het buitenland terug te vorderen.

Kort samengevat

Dhrbelegger 10 december 2020 23:18

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Krentenmenten 10 december 2020 23:27

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Akanr1 schreef op 9 december 2020 18:26:
[...]

Je kan inderdaad de RV terugvragen in het land van oorsprong (finland). In de meeste gevallen is dit een gedeeltelijke terugbetaling en moet je hier een aantal formaliteiten voor verrichten. Als je werkt via een broker die niet gekoppeld is aan een bank, kan je de RV in de meeste gevallen niet terugvorderen, omdat de broker dit niet ondersteund. Als je via een bank belegd, kan je vragen aan de bank om de RV van het buitenland terug te vorderen.

Kort samengevat

Binckbank doet het niet.

FORT1944 15 december 2020 18:00

quote:
Akanr1 schreef op 9 december 2020 18:26:
[...]

Je kan inderdaad de RV terugvragen in het land van oorsprong (finland). In de meeste gevallen is dit een gedeeltelijke terugbetaling en moet je hier een aantal formaliteiten voor verrichten. Als je werkt via een broker die niet gekoppeld is aan een bank, kan je de RV in de meeste gevallen niet terugvorderen, omdat de broker dit niet ondersteund. Als je via een bank belegd, kan je vragen aan de bank om de RV van het buitenland terug te vorderen.

Kort samengevat

FORT1944 15 december 2020 18:02

Heeft NOKIA een dividend betaald in 2020 ? Volgens mij niet maar als je een terugbetaling vraagt van je voorheffing vraag je best ook de dossierkosten , dat kan verrassen als het over een kleine positie gaat .

drulletje drie 16 december 2020 08:54

Strategy and operating model update, 16 December 2020

www.nokia.com/about-us/investors/resu...

Ben benieuwd!

Pierre1 16 december 2020 10:16

Dit wordt een lange zit.

STOCKHOLM, Dec 16 (Reuters) - Telecoms equipment maker Nokia's NOKIA.HE said it expects operating margins at its mobile networks business will be flat in 2021, it said on Wednesday in an update on strategy to streamline the Finnish company into four business groups.
The immediate focus of the mobile networks business will be on executing its turnaround, the company said. It expects the business to deliver a comparable operating margin of about 0% in 2021 and significant improvement over the longer term, Nokia added. nGNX53CthW
Nokia announced a new strategy in October under which the company will have four business groups and CEO Pekka Lundmark said Nokia would "do whatever it takes" to take the lead in 5G.
"We are putting in a significant technology investment in this new strategy switch... we are willing to sacrifice short-term profitability, to make sure that we really get into technology leadership," Lundmark said in a video interview.
"We have to remember that 5G is going to be a 10-year cycle and we are still in the very early stages of that cycle."
The company had earlier cut its 2020 operating margin forecast to 9% from 9.5% and for 2021 forecast operating margin of 7-10% for the entire company. Operating margins at its Network Infrastructure business, which includes optical and fixed networks, would be in the high single digit range in 2021.
Lundmark took over the top job in Nokia in August after product missteps by the company saw it lag Swedish rival Ericsson ERICb.ST and Chinese group Huawei HWT.UL in the race to win deals to sell 5G network equipment.
Several senior executives have also left company as it is moving to a new operating model to be implemented on Jan. 1.
Lundmark said Nokia will now have 11 members in the new leadership team from 17 earlier and there were still two unannounced names who will leave the company.

4finance 16 december 2020 14:05

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Pierre1 schreef op 16 december 2020 10:16:
Dit wordt een lange zit.

STOCKHOLM, Dec 16 (Reuters) - Telecoms equipment maker Nokia's NOKIA.HE said it expects operating margins at its mobile networks business will be flat in 2021, it said on Wednesday in an update on strategy to streamline the Finnish company into four business groups.
The immediate focus of the mobile networks business will be on executing its turnaround, the company said. It expects the business to deliver a comparable operating margin of about 0% in 2021 and significant improvement over the longer term, Nokia added. nGNX53CthW
Nokia announced a new strategy in October under which the company will have four business groups and CEO Pekka Lundmark said Nokia would "do whatever it takes" to take the lead in 5G.
"We are putting in a significant technology investment in this new strategy switch... we are willing to sacrifice short-term profitability, to make sure that we really get into technology leadership," Lundmark said in a video interview.
"We have to remember that 5G is going to be a 10-year cycle and we are still in the very early stages of that cycle."
The company had earlier cut its 2020 operating margin forecast to 9% from 9.5% and for 2021 forecast operating margin of 7-10% for the entire company. Operating margins at its Network Infrastructure business, which includes optical and fixed networks, would be in the high single digit range in 2021.
Lundmark took over the top job in Nokia in August after product missteps by the company saw it lag Swedish rival Ericsson ERICb.ST and Chinese group Huawei HWT.UL in the race to win deals to sell 5G network equipment.
Several senior executives have also left company as it is moving to a new operating model to be implemented on Jan. 1.
Lundmark said Nokia will now have 11 members in the new leadership team from 17 earlier and there were still two unannounced names who will leave the company.

NOKIA, valt mij zwaar tegen. Ik heb mijn positie gisteren al verkocht. Uiteindelijk nog een mooie winst.

[verwijderd] 16 december 2020 15:26

Verandering met nieuwe CEO lijkt me de goede richting uit te gaan. Hij denkt lange termijn wat elke CEO voor ogen zou moeten hebben. Bij het vragen rondje heeft hij telkens toch meteen een antwoord. Alleen jammer dat hij in vergelijking met bv. een Steve Jobs, 0 charisma heeft. Ook hun presentatie had wat animo mogen hebben. Al was het een kort intro filmpje met wat vb'den van de mogelijkheden die we gaan hebben met 5G.

XTrail 16 december 2020 15:37

It expects the business to deliver a comparable operating margin of about 0% in 2021

Als men hiermee nog weer een jaar verder mee moet, al 2 jaar ellende met Nokia, ze zitten in het westen in een feitelijk duopolie en dan geen enkele marge kunnen realiseren, werkelijk onbegrijpelijk.

IEXCL 16 december 2020 16:51

Maar hopen dat onderneming een keer verkocht gaat worden

GiGa 16 december 2020 20:09

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GiGa 16 december 2020 21:29

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[verwijderd] 17 december 2020 09:40

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REALX schreef op 16 december 2020 16:51:
Maar hopen dat onderneming een keer verkocht gaat worden

De geruchten vanuit Microsoft waren er. Vooral voor de 5G technologie van Nokia. Weet iemand of dit nog steeds speelt?

Pierre1 17 december 2020 10:03

Nishant Batra hired from auto tech group Veoneer
Veoneer to appoint Giuseppe Rosso as acting CTO
Several senior execs have quit Nokia in management reshuffle
Recasts, adds details
STOCKHOLM/HELSINKI, Dec 17 (Reuters) - Nokia NOKIA.HE on Thursday named rival Ericsson's [ERICb.ST] former executive Nishant Batra as chief strategy and technology officer and member of its group leadership team, effective Jan. 18.
Chief Executive Officer Pekka Lundmark announced a new structure for Nokia in October which from Jan. 1 will have 11 members in the leadership team rather than 17.
Marcus Weldon, Nokia's previous technology chief, stepped down late last month.
Under its new strategy, the Finnish company will give up on its longstanding end-to-end portfolio approach and operate under four business groups Mobile Networks, IP and Fixed Networks, Cloud and Network Services and Nokia Technologies. nL1N2HK0CA
The Finnish telecom equipment maker said Batra, who is currently CTO at auto technology group Veoneer VNE.N, VNEsdb.ST, will be based initially in Finland and then move to the United States. nGNX4lW1T
Originally from India, Batra previously spent more than a decade at Ericsson before joining Veoneer in 2018.
"The telecommunications industry is an exciting place to be at the moment with 5G now really taking off, and Nokia is right at the heart of it," he said in a statement.
At Veoneer, Batra has been important in defining and developing the company's scalable software architecture, and Veoneer announced in August it was teaming up with Qualcomm Technologies QCOM.O on developing a software and chip platform for driver-assistance systems. nL8N2FT4N8
The Swedish maker of vision systems, radars and driver-assistance software, said that Giuseppe Rosso, its current Vice President Systems & Software would be appointed acting CTO, with a permanent replacement to be communicated at a later date.
Other senior executives who have quit Nokia since the new structure was announced include Chief Marketing Officer Barry French and president of global services and member of the group's leadership team Sanjay Goel.

GiGa 17 december 2020 10:27

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GiGa 17 december 2020 10:29

When it comes to Verizon, we have to remember that they will continue to be among our top three customers, also going forward,” said Lundmark. “There are a lot of opportunities. We actually published a dynamic spectrum sharing software deal with them. We continue to work with them in many segments. We also recently published a 5G private wireless deal with them as well. So we do not at all see it as we would somehow be excluded from some of the segments with them going forward. We are also very strong on the software side with the core network.” - Pekka Lindbergh

Hulskof 17 december 2020 10:46

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4finance schreef op 16 december 2020 14:05:
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NOKIA, valt mij zwaar tegen. Ik heb mijn positie gisteren al verkocht. Uiteindelijk nog een mooie winst.

Ik ben er gisteren ook uitgestapt. Was die negatieve outlooks zo langzamerhand wel beu.

Pierre1 17 december 2020 16:41

Dit kan een onderhandelingstactiek zijn van Telefonica en Orange.

Operators wary of basing rollout on Huawei equipment
Telefonica and Orange considering buying from Samsung
Samsung commonly seen as requiring expensive equipment swap
By Isla Binnie, Supantha Mukherjee and Mathieu Rosemain
MADRID/STOCKHOLM/PARIS, Dec 17 (Reuters) - European mobile operators are starting to consider Samsung Electronics 005930.KS, long seen as a non-starter, in the race to replace China's Huawei as the supplier of their fledgling 5G systems, although early talks suggest it will still be an uphill struggle.
After Samsung unexpectedly landed a $6 billion deal with U.S. giant Verizon VZ.N in September nL4N2G30RB, Spain's Telefonica TEF.MC and France's Orange ORAN.PA have both held talks with the South Korean firm, company executives say.
Huawei's hardware makes up nearly half of the European 4G network that will form the foundation for super-fast 5G, alongside that of Nokia NOKIA.HE and Ericsson ERICb.ST.
But European operators are under pressure from the United States to shun the Chinese giant for 5G systems that could in future be supporting services ranging from telemedicine to factory automation. Washington says there is a risk Huawei could spy for Beijing, though the firm has repeatedly denied this.
One problem for Samsung is that operators worry that its products will not be compatible with the existing 4G networks built by Huawei, and that it will cost hundreds of millions to rip these out and replace them rather than simply upgrade them.
"They need to be extremely competitive," said Telefonica Chief Technology Officer Enrique Blanco. "The cost of swapping the 4G is an extra cost for Samsung so, even if you are inviting them, it is difficult for them to be competitive."
A Samsung spokesman said the idea that its equipment was not compatible with existing infrastructure was a misconception, but did not provide technical details. He declined to specify which European markets it was trying to enter, but said it hoped to replicate inroads it had made in Asia and the Americas.
Verizon is using Samsung for various parts of its vast U.S. network. "We had done some trials with them and given them a few markets to see how they would work and, and then it worked well," Verizon's Chief Product Development Officer Nicola Palmer told Reuters.
IF NOT HUAWEI, WHO?
Orange Chief Technology and Innovation Officer Michael Trabbia said he, too, was considering Samsung in Europe.
The two European countries where Orange has not yet chosen an equipment maker are Poland and Romania.
"We can see that Samsung is becoming more and more credible on 4G and 5G," Trabbia said.
But he said Orange had tested both Samsung and Huawei equipment before opting for Nokia and Ericsson for its 5G systems in France.
European operators have already spent billions of euros to roll out fibre optic networks in Europe, and 5G will drain their pockets even more. The industry body GSMA expects $1.14 trillion to be invested globally over five years, 78% of it on 5G.
If a supplier's products need to be swapped out, it can be pricey. When Bell Canada decided to drop Huawei this year, analysts estimated the cost of replacing its 4G equipment at about $200 million over several years. nL4N2DG2GE
Altice Europe's French telecoms business SFR also says it requires its new 5G equipment to fit the existing structure.
A source close to the company said Samsung was "not there yet", but could be an option in the future.
Europe's biggest mobile operator, Deutsche Telekom, remains sceptical whether Samsung can be competitive in the short term, according to company sources and internal briefing documents.
Analysts too say it will need to do more to compete with Nokia and Ericsson on their home turf.
"If they get a deal from Deutsche Telekom or Telefonica, they need a big organisation to build and support the infrastructure," said Kimmo Stenvall, an analyst at OP Markets Helsinki.
"They can't just send their offers to European operators and then start building networks here."
Samsung's spokesman said it had a strong Networks team and research facilities in Europe. But Stenvall said big deals usually presuppose years of groundwork in forming relationships with operators and testing networks.
"We operators cannot be suffering," said Telefonica's Blanco. "We need to be maintaining capabilities.

Pierre1 17 december 2020 16:51

Er is géén aandeel in mijn portefeuille waar ik zo loop te zuchten als bij Nokia. Investeerder van het eerste uur en het gevoel in een lange donkere tunnel te lopen waar geen eind aan komt en ieder Noorderlichtpunt verdwijnt weer als sneeuw voor de zon. Maar het is het meest donker voordat het licht wordt. De waarde van Nokia zal een keer tot uiting moeten komen. We blijven doorlopen op de tast naar de eerste zonnestralen.

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