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Dus vorig jaar aug 2.6 mrd HERE...Nu 3.1 mrd HERE en bleeding...

TT ? vorig jaar aug rond de 2 mrd en nu ? Weer rond de 2 mrd...and growing, partnering, blossoming... !!!

vreemd hoor, vraag niet HOE het kan maar profiteer ervan (zo lang het nog kan...)!
boem!
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de speurneus schreef op 27 december 2016 15:15:

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Helemaal met je eens martinmartin. Een WPA die een koers van 30 rechtvaardigt.
Mooi oplopend rijtje. Dus eind 2021 is TT 240 Euro p/a waard?
Om een koers te rechtvaardigen van 30 euro zal een wpa van 1 a 1,50 euro noodzakelijk zijn.
Omdat die winst hoofdzakelijk zal moeten komen vanuit Automotive en het feit, dat de gesloten contracten in deze BU een lange doorlooptijd hebben zal die 1 a 1,50 wpa buiten bijzondere verassingen bij Consumer niet voor 2020 plaatsvinden n
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3,1 mrd voor Here .....?

Is dit vanwege de voorsprong op TomTom , of vanwege het verliezen van marktaandeel aan TomTom ?
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Purespeculation# schreef op 27 december 2016 15:45:

3,1 mrd voor Here .....?

Is dit vanwege de voorsprong op TomTom , of vanwege het verliezen van marktaandeel aan TomTom ?
TomTom loopt zo'n 3 jaar voor met de HD-maps en het real-time platform dat ook de sensordata uit de auto verwerkt.

Verder heeft TomTom het patent op nu reeds beschikbare RoadDNA; de enige betrouwbare technologie voor de SDC die in de auto is opgeslagen en niet afhankelijke is van fragiele mobiele datanetwerken.

Morgan Stanley komt in een blue sky op 5 miljard aan waarde voor de TomTom Maps.

HERE verliest marktaandeel aan TomTom en komt daarom niet aan een hogere waardering dan die 3,1 miljard. Partijen als Uber wilden meer bieden maar de 3-Duitsers dreigden destijds op te stappen. Dat heeft de waarde aanzienlijk gedrukt.
Uber koos vervolgens voor de kwaliteit van TomTom.
KaPeeN63
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Goedendag; ik lees vaak dit forum; post in principe heel weinig.
Bezit aandelen Tom2.
Wie kan mij nu exact zeggen, wat de free float (aan aandelen) is.
Volgens mijn info. zijn er totaal 60 miljoen aandelen totaal door Tom2 ooit uitgegeven.
Dutchy Ron
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Tencent, along with Chinese mapping provider NavInfo and Singapore’s sovereign wealth fund GIC, will jointly buy a 10 per cent stake in Here at a price of up to €241m, the companies announced on Tuesday. The purchase would reduce the shareholdings of Here’s owners, the German carmakers Audi, BMW and Daimler.

Providing maps for autonomous cars requires a technological leap. Maps designed to be read by people have a 10 metre accuracy level but autonomous cars will need to know where they are to the nearest centimetre.

“With the benefit of Here’s technology, we’re mainly planning to advance our in-car navigation systems and mapping services for driverless cars,” said a spokesperson for NavInfo, which provides map data for Tencent.

“This collaboration?.?.?.?facilitates Tencent’s exploration of future technologies including autonomous driving and artificial intelligence,” said Julian Ma, a vice-president of Tencent.

Tencent faces an uphill battle for smartphone map users in a sector dominated by Baidu and Alibaba’s recent entrant Amap, which it acquired two years ago from AutoNavi. Figures from iResearch, the consultancy, show that Baidu and Alibaba’s maps have around 200m monthly users each, whereas Tencent’s standalone map application has only 8m.

However, this figure would rise dramatically if it included the 850m users of the company’s messaging app WeChat who might use the app’s built-in mapping services — for instance, to share their location with friends.

“It’s very difficult for Tencent at this point to capture mass-market users,” said Bao Jun, analyst at iResearch. “To advance, they need to find a niche to develop in, such as navigation for autonomous cars.”

Baidu was the first Chinese company to pilot its fully-autonomous cars this November, when it let members of the public ride them in Wuzhen, a tourist city to the west of Shanghai. It is currently in talks with car manufacturers to sell a small number of fully-autonomous models in 2018 or early 2019, which would make it the first company worldwide to market such cars.

China only allows a small number of licensed domestic providers to make maps of the country because of national security concerns.

As a result, foreign mappers and open-sourced citizen-mapping projects are illegal. Although Here makes maps in almost 200 countries worldwide, it needed a domestic licensed partner — NavInfo — to map China.

All map data must be stored on Chinese servers and use the government’s co-ordinate system, which is designed to include errors of several hundred metres if combined with maps made from international GPS standards.

Here had net assets of €1.87bn at the end of the first half of 2016, and the parties to the deal estimate the company’s enterprise value to be €3.1bn
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holenbeer schreef op 27 december 2016 15:58:

Iemand een idee waarom Tesla bijna 4 % hoger staat?
Nvidia ook, TT blijft achter ;-)
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holenbeer schreef op 27 december 2016 15:58:

Iemand een idee waarom Tesla bijna 4 % hoger staat?
TESLA: MANUFACTURING PLANS WITH PANASONIC IN NEW YORK.
Cercle Finance - 13:52
(CercleFinance.com) - Tesla has finalised an agreement with Japan's Panasonic to begin manufacturing photovoltaic (PV) cells and modules at a factory in Buffalo, New York.

These high-efficiency products will be used to produce solar panels in non-solar roof products.

Tesla also plans to incorporate Panasonic's cells into solar glass tile roofs.

Production of the first PV modules will begin in summer 2017, and will ramp to 1 Gigawatt of module production by 2019.

As part of the agreement, Panasonic will cover required capital costs in Buffalo, while Tesla will sign a long-term purchase commitment with Panasonic.

Copyright (c) 2016 CercleFinance.com. All rights reserved.
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BMW: REDUCES STAKE IN HERE.
Cercle Finance - 15:33
(CercleFinance.com) - As a specialist in digital cartography owned by Nokia until 2015, HERE will see major upheavals in its capital.

Indeed, the group has announced a joint investment of 10% in its capital by NavInfo, its Chinese competitor, the Internet group, Tencent, and GIC, a sovereign Singapore fund. The stakes of these three German car manufacturers BMW, Daimler and Audi will be reduced to the same extent, subject to the approval of the competent authorities.

Nokia sold HERE for 2.8 billion euros in December 2015.

Copyright (c) 2016 CercleFinance.com. All rights reserved.
Dutchy Ron
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Beijing, China, December 27, 2016 - HERE, China's leading provider of digital map and location services, Beijing NavInfo New Technology Co., Ltd. ("NavInfo"), a leading provider of digital map and location services in China, "), China's leading Internet value-added service provider Tencent Holdings Limited (hereinafter referred to as" Tencent "), today announced plans to establish a strategic partnership for the Chinese market development and provide top location services.

On the basis of the strategic partnership, NavInfo and Tencent, together with the leading international investment company GIC, to be jointly acquired HERE 10% stake, to further expand the HERE shareholder structure. AUDI AG, BMW AG and Daimler AG will indirectly reduce their HERE shares to the extent that the acquisition is complete. The acquisition is expected to be completed in the first half of 2017, subject to regulatory approvals.

HERE, NavInfo and Tencent formed between the strategic partnership will include:

HERE Formed a joint venture with NavInfo: The company plans to set up a 50/50 joint venture in China to provide location services to customers in various industries in China and around the world. HERE has provided map and location services in nearly 200 countries. Based on the joint venture platform, HERE will extend the service to China through the use of NavInfo's new data and service support in China.
• HERE and NavInfo will introduce HERE's Auto SDK into China and promote the localization process of the product according to the specific requirements of the Chinese market. The Auto SDK is a modular software development tool for in-vehicle experience.
• HERE and NavInfo are collaborating to create and deliver high-precision map and location services for autopilot vehicles, ensuring that customers consistently deliver industry-leading global solutions.
• HERE and NavInfo plans to extend HERE's Internet of Things solutions to the Chinese market, such as fleet management, on-demand services and asset tracking, on joint venture operating platforms.

The joint venture shall be subject to regulatory approval by the relevant PRC authorities.
Tencent will cooperate with HERE in its products and services: HERE Tencent will explore the use of the Chinese and international markets products and services in the maps and location services platforms and tools.
Product improvement and enhancements: HERE and Tencent will cooperate to enhance both company's products for users with better experience for customers, the two sides will also explore opportunities for developing new products and technologies.
HERE and Tencent commercial cooperation between the need to be within the jurisdiction of the relevant departments of regulatory approval before the establishment.
"We have always wanted to expand our shareholder base and enable smart locations to drive innovation and growth across different industries across the globe," said HERE CEO Edzard Overbeek. "We therefore welcome NavInfo and Tencent as strategic investors to support our vision, And as a partner to create attractive new services for the Chinese market, we also welcome GIC as a financial investor in the long - term prospects of Chinese companies to join our ranks.
"The automotive industry is already on the eve of two major changes in autopilot and new energy," said Peter Cheng, CEO of NavInfo. "Together with the global high-end automotive brand and global position-based service industry leaders, this will enable China's entire autopilot The industry to a new level. NavInfo and Here has more than 10 years of happy history of cooperation, but also in the traditional location of the service from the navigation to the major transformation of the two shareholders and their respective high-end depot and Tencent join hands, Heritage of history and the future, will bring the whole industry - wide new automatic driving and intelligent location services global solutions.
Tencent Group Vice President Ma Zhe people, said: "HERE strategic cooperation with Tencent confirms the commitment to quality service to connect users, HERE leading intelligent location technology access, with Tencent social platform capabilities, as well as user behavior and location data ecology Understanding, cooperation and comprehensively enhance the position of Tencent service capabilities.At the same time, cooperation also contributed to Tencent in the automatic driving, artificial intelligence and other future science and technology exploration.
"As a long-term value investor, we believe HERE has the ability to extend its success in the automotive sector to the Internet of Things, Smart City and Fleet Management," said Gary Zhu, chief investment officer of GIC Private Equity Investment Ltd. "We also believe that the four- The strategic partnership between Tencent and Hewlett-Packard will create a momentum for HERE's worldwide expansion of its business and the development of HAD (Highly Automated Driving) maps. "
About HERE
HERE, an open platform company that empowers people, businesses and cities to harness the power of location. We understand the world from a positional perspective, enabling customers to achieve better results, ranging from helping city management infrastructure to helping businesses optimize their assets to driving drivers safely to their destinations. For more information on HERE, including our new generation of cloud-based platform location services, please visit 360.here.com.
holenbeer
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TromDom schreef op 27 december 2016 16:03:

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TESLA: MANUFACTURING PLANS WITH PANASONIC IN NEW YORK.
Cercle Finance - 13:52
(CercleFinance.com) - Tesla has finalised an agreement with Japan's Panasonic to begin manufacturing photovoltaic (PV) cells and modules at a factory in Buffalo, New York.

These high-efficiency products will be used to produce solar panels in non-solar roof products.

Tesla also plans to incorporate Panasonic's cells into solar glass tile roofs.

Production of the first PV modules will begin in summer 2017, and will ramp to 1 Gigawatt of module production by 2019.

As part of the agreement, Panasonic will cover required capital costs in Buffalo, while Tesla will sign a long-term purchase commitment with Panasonic.

Copyright (c) 2016 CercleFinance.com. All rights reserved.
Dank je! 1 Gigawatt, dat is meer dan de helft van wat er nu in Nederland staat, niet niks. Als je straks een Tesla koopt, krijg je de panelen er gratis bij :-)
Juun
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KaPeeN63 schreef op 27 december 2016 15:58:

Goedendag; ik lees vaak dit forum; post in principe heel weinig.
Bezit aandelen Tom2.
Wie kan mij nu exact zeggen, wat de free float (aan aandelen) is.
Volgens mijn info. zijn er totaal 60 miljoen aandelen totaal door Tom2 ooit uitgegeven.
Officieel is het 43% van 243 miljoen aandelen.
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TromDom schreef op 27 december 2016 16:04:

BMW: REDUCES STAKE IN HERE.
Cercle Finance - 15:33
(CercleFinance.com) - As a specialist in digital cartography owned by Nokia until 2015, HERE will see major upheavals in its capital.

Indeed, the group has announced a joint investment of 10% in its capital by NavInfo, its Chinese competitor, the Internet group, Tencent, and GIC, a sovereign Singapore fund. The stakes of these three German car manufacturers BMW, Daimler and Audi will be reduced to the same extent, subject to the approval of the competent authorities.

Nokia sold HERE for 2.8 billion euros in December 2015.

Copyright (c) 2016 CercleFinance.com. All rights reserved.
BMW ......hmmmmm werkte die al niet liever met TomTom ! ?
KaPeeN63
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Juun schreef op 27 december 2016 16:08:

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Officieel is het 43% van 243 miljoen aandelen.
Bedankt voor je info; ik zat er dus helemaal naast.
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martinmartin schreef op 27 december 2016 15:28:

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Om een koers te rechtvaardigen van 30 euro zal een wpa van 1 a 1,50 euro noodzakelijk zijn.
Omdat die winst hoofdzakelijk zal moeten komen vanuit Automotive en het feit, dat de gesloten contracten in deze BU een lange doorlooptijd hebben zal die 1 a 1,50 wpa buiten bijzondere verassingen bij Consumer niet voor 2020 plaatsvinden n
Ja dat had ik obv het beschikbare cijfermateriaal ook zo begrepen.
Uiteraard deo volente. De beurs is onderhavig aan etc.. en ceteris paribus: Er vinden geen fundamentele wijzigingen plaats in de ondernemingsstructuur.
Dutchy Ron
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Tesla begint spoedig met implementatie van verkeersborden herkennen, dat is wellicht de trigger voor de deal Tesla-TT
Juun
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Ik vraag me dan af: Zou Tom Runia nu bij TomTom werken. Z'n naam heeft ie mee, z'n kwaliteiten ook. (het is al een oud bericht, maar ik moest er aan denken in relatie tot het Tesla bericht, dus daarom het artikel er weer even bij gezocht)
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KaPeeN63
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ik heb de websites van Here en van Tomtom eens wat uitvoeriger bekeken.
Ik vind de website van Here wel heel indrukwekkend. Dat zegt natuurlijk niets. maar gelikt is het wel.
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KaPeeN63 schreef op 27 december 2016 16:20:

ik heb de websites van Here en van Tomtom eens wat uitvoeriger bekeken.
Ik vind de website van Here wel heel indrukwekkend. Dat zegt natuurlijk niets. maar gelikt is het wel.
Kost alleen maar meer geld....:)
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